Sorry for the late report! i had the pleasure to fish Cedar Creek on Saturday and Sunday the lake itself is very diffrent than what im used to. Had to pull out all the tricks and i was very pleased with the results. saturday started out a little slow but ended up with best five around 23lbs. And Sunday my best five were 241/2lbs all caught on a veriety of techniques no solid pattern. Hope this Helps sorry if it doesnt.