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I normally use 2lb mono on my spinning reel. I wasn't able to find it anywhere locally, so ended up getting some 8 lb power pro that has a smaller diameter. I'm sure the spool won't be enough to fill up the reel.

I've used fly line backing to fill up the reel underneath mono before. Would this work with braid, or is it going to dig in? Should I use something else instead?
 

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I have to ask. Why would you switch from hair thin mono to braid ?
I understand kinda local places being out of 2 lb test mono and flouro, but I'm confused as to why in the world you'd go to braid no matter how thin it is. Seems to me the only reason to use 2 lb is for line visibility in gin clear water. Braid will look like a rope in that water.
 

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Well, the small diameter is better for casting ultra tiny lures down to 1/32 oz or even less. This makes it possible to use fly fishing type lures. I was thinking about using a fluoro leader to make it less visible, but I read several articles that said tying braid directly to the lure doesn't seem to make a difference.
 

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I use electrical tape on spinning reel spools.
I use vinyl anti-corrosion tape, which is similar to vinyl electrical tape. The vinyl anti-corrosion tape is thicker, so more vinyl, less adhesive. I do this for reels with braid, casting or spinning.

I use mono backing for top-spotting flouro on my casting reels.
 

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Well, the small diameter is better for casting ultra tiny lures down to 1/32 oz or even less. This makes it possible to use fly fishing type lures. I was thinking about using a fluoro leader to make it less visible, but I read several articles that said tying braid directly to the lure doesn't seem to make a difference.
Ohhhhh...Thanks for explaining. I'm from the school of it does matter if the line is really visible in many types of presentations. I use braid with a frog because the fish are just on pure reaction trying to smash and eat it. For smaller baits fished more slowly that the fish will have time to look at, I either use a flouro leader or straight flouro.
 

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Let us know how this works for you. I started using 20lb braid a few years ago since I fish salt a lot and in that case I tie to a swivel with leaders etc. I decided I should be able to use the same RR in fresh but I couldn't get any hits with straight braid. So I tried tieing on a 12 lb fluro section. I tried all the knots, uni/uni, alberto, modified alberto, etc but sooner a later what would happen is that the fluro would break at the knot or the braid would unravel and come loose. I lost a lot of fish trying that scheme. Perhaps my knot tieing skills are not up to par but I tried a bunch of times.

Finally I switched to fluro only and things work so much better. Fluro is a bit heavier and it made my bait casting much easier. So easy that I could cast a worm with no weight at all with a bait caster and so clear that bites went way up. Now I use this technique for casting a live shrimp with no weight.

For the white bass I'm using straight 4lb fluro. Its light enough that the current catches the lure and moves along in a stream.

I hope that you will have a better experience with braid and leader.
 

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Let us know how this works for you....

...I tried all the knots, uni/uni, alberto, modified alberto, etc but sooner a later what would happen is that the fluro would break at the knot or the braid would unravel and come loose. I lost a lot of fish trying that scheme. Perhaps my knot tieing skills are not up to par but I tried a bunch of times...
I went down the same road, trying to save money by using flouro leaders. I had bought a bunch of PowerPro in different weights when WalMart clearanced them out. I spooled my reels with braid and then tried the same knots you did. I hated the knots bumping on the guides, casting and retrieving. I didn't lose many fish (I didn't hook many), but I lost a lot of lures to knot failure.

I decided to go ahead and buy flouro for my casting reels (sometimes at retail, ouch). I went back to clear mono for my spinning reels, except a reel that I haven't used in a year, my drop-shot rig.

My drop shot set up is a size 30 spinning reel on a 7' St Croix rod. It has 30# moss green PowerPro. If my golfer's elbow flares up and I can't power fish, I will tie on a 15 to 20 foot Seagur 8 pound yellow label leader using the FG knot.

By the way, I hate the FG knot. Unfortunately, its the only the one that can do the job without bumping the guides.
 

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nanofil 17lb dark green has solved all my issues, and i have plenty of 'em...i mean, issues...well, i also have 7 or 8 spools of nano too... even at 17lb it's super skinny, zero memory, casts half a mile...etc... i carry a spool in my box, so if y'all wanna spool some up let me know...or try my set up...
 

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I've tried throwing flies with this type set up and it didn't work very well. Plus if you don't tie a perfect knot with 2 lb mono, it is weakened to almost nothing right off the bat. If you go with braid, then a leader, then another knot to the bait, it will be easy to break. Maybe the braid direct to the bait would be different though. it's an interesting thought. Now, I have thrown flies (nymph patterns with lead eyes so they sink) on a spinning rod with a Thill weighted bobber and caught all the bream and sunfish i wanted. Its a lot of fun and you can throw the weighted bobber for days!!
 

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I've started throwing braid on all my light/ultralight setups. Doesn't both the crappie one bit and if you get a 5 lb bass on you can just wrench them up without worrying about breaking it. I usually use 15 lb braid which is the width of 6 lb mono IIRC.
 

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I ended up getting a Tica Cetus SE500, which was small enough not to need any backing with the 8 lb braid. The braid was thicker than advertised. I just put some tape on the spool to keep the line from slipping. I tied on a mono leader with an alberto knot.

The rig worked great. It cast OK with a 1/32 oz jig, and it zinged the 1/16 oz nicely. I hung up on the bottom once and had to break the lure off. The uni-knot broke at the lure before the alberto knot. So, the leader system is solid.

Unfortunately, the white bass did not cooperate. The run seems to be over before it really started at my usual spot.
 

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I have been using #8 braid on my crappie rigs for at least 20 years without a problem, but I also use 9 foot fly rod to make up for the lack of stretch so I don't rip their lips off.
when it comes to bass I use FC, braid, and mono depending on lure and water clarity. In gin clear water it is hard to beat FC, but if water isn't clear I will either use a braid or mono unless fishing deep diving crank baits then I always use FC since it sinks and allows my crank bait to get to depth quicker and stay there. Top water except for frogs I use mono as IMO I get a better action using mono. Frogs I always use braid. Pitching into heavy cover I use braid. In saltwater inland bays I use mono since I am mostly always targeting specs and prefer line with stretch and never have to really worry about hanging up in open water. I use Seaguar InvizX FC, P-Line TCB Braid, and Berkley Trilene mono except in saltwater I use Berkley big game and have never needed anything above 12lb in saltwater and have landed 30+ lb bull reds with it. I do use a mono backing with FC, but no backing with braid. What I do do to save a little money with braid since it has no memory I will take it off one reel and run it right onto another reel and use the opposite end as it has never been exposed to the sun and very little moisture. Though I buy my braid in 2500 yard spools so I do not have to worry if there is enough to fill my reel.

I may buy some nano and give it a try in place of mono.
 

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i used nanofil on the coast a few years ago and had no issues w/ reds or trout. i did have some other issues that morning, like it was 38 degrees and 38mph! but we were reeling 'em in like crazy!
 

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I normally use 2lb mono on my spinning reel. I wasn't able to find it anywhere locally, so ended up getting some 8 lb power pro that has a smaller diameter. I'm sure the spool won't be enough to fill up the reel.

I've used fly line backing to fill up the reel underneath mono before. Would this work with braid, or is it going to dig in? Should I use something else instead?
Just curious what you are fishing for with 2 pound mono? I don't even use line that small for trout fishing.
 

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They say stupidity is doing the same thing over again expecting different results. Maybe this is just enough different. I just found this knot, Andy knot, on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyAK0_tZzBw
The key advantage I see is that the braid is doubled and tied before the joining knot is even tied. That way its next to impossible for the braid to fray and unravell and eventually have the knot come appart. That was my biggest problem trying to go from a 20lb braid to like a 12 lb fluro.

I still like the extra weight of the all fluro making it easier to cast the tiniest lures. Similar to what a fly fisherman does.
 
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